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Revisionist History Of Reagan Tax Cuts
James from Bennettsville writes:
4/18/2004 8:54:17 PM
Mikey.
The only thing inflated in here is your brain and your ego. You liberals will never learn.
You do not have the ability to tell the truth.
You like Clinton are still trying to define "is"!
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Mike from Greenville writes:
4/18/2004 5:34:10 PM
Jamie, Jamie,

Reagan had the largest tax increase in peacetime.

When you compare budgets, you need to account for inflation. You may not realize that in light of your skimpy knowledge of economics.

More folks were indicted in the Reagan administration than in Clinton's.

Daddy W had to pardon his own cabinet officer (Wienberger) due to a conviction.

Did you hear?

700 Americans dead in Iraq.

All a result of W's incompetence that gets revealed everyday.

That is W's main accomplishment so far.

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W. Andrew from Greenville writes:
4/18/2004 4:53:56 PM
The budget reached balance in 1998-99. A balanced budget is the result of sufficient revenues to meet spending. A Democratic Congress took care of revenues in 1992, and passed a tax increase that led to an increase in revenues and balanced budget.

The "Contract of America" came after the heavy lifting had been done. The only budgetary component was a promise to pass a balanced budget amendment and a line item veto...both of those efforts were flopped. Other than gimmicks, Republicans came to the party late.

You folks blame Clinton for 9/11 even though the event occurred on Bush's watch. But, when the balanced budget occurred on Clinton's watch, you want to give credit to Republicans...who couldn't pass the budget they wanted to in 1995-96 (remember how Clinton made them all look like a bunch of chumps with the Gov shutdown).

Bottom line is there is no dispute who controls Washington now, and look at the result. What was the difference that resulted in balanced budgets? Democrats were in control.

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James from Bennettsville writes:
4/18/2004 2:58:25 PM
Clinton balanced the budget on the backs of the working man. He raised taxes higher than they had ever been raised in peacetime and dismantled National Security.
His balanced budget led directly to our country being attacked,the loss of over 4000 people not involved in a war and the dismantling of out educational system,
Clinton and his cronies misplaced enough money in the Department of Education in 8 years to run every states educational budget for the next 4 years. When I say misplaced I mean they havent any idea of where it went.
Our great ex-Governor Riley misplaced over 230 million dollars in his last year over that department alone.
To have the most honest administration in our history he and his cronies lost the most tax dollars with no idea of where they went than any administration in history.
They had the most foreign money ever funneled into a party from foreign enemy nations.
They put more people to work in and around the Whitehouse in the history of this nation without having to have a security clearance.
They had the most people accused and convicted of wrong doing.The most members to die under cloudy circumstances and willfully turned over more national security information to foreign governments than any in our history.
I dont care about his sex life and I am sure Hillary didnt either because she made the statement indirectly that rape was OK.
He also didnt have the time to leave a golf match to address his misplacing the National Nuclear Security Code and to give Janet Reno advice before they murdered 80 in Waco.

You may blow your smoke up your own a## along with the rest of the dumb lockstepping liberals but people with a brain cant be sold that bill of goods.

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James from Bennettsville writes:
4/18/2004 2:58:25 PM
Clinton balanced the budget on the backs of the working man. He raised taxes higher than they had ever been raised in peacetime and dismantled National Security.
His balanced budget led directly to our country being attacked,the loss of over 4000 people not involved in a war and the dismantling of out educational system,
Clinton and his cronies misplaced enough money in the Department of Education in 8 years to run every states educational budget for the next 4 years. When I say misplaced I mean they havent any idea of where it went.
Our great ex-Governor Riley misplaced over 230 million dollars in his last year over that department alone.
To have the most honest administration in our history he and his cronies lost the most tax dollars with no idea of where they went than any administration in history.
They had the most foreign money ever funneled into a party from foreign enemy nations.
They put more people to work in and around the Whitehouse in the history of this nation without having to have a security clearance.
They had the most people accused and convicted of wrong doing.The most members to die under cloudy circumstances and willfully turned over more national security information to foreign governments than any in our history.
I dont care about his sex life and I am sure Hillary didnt either because she made the statement indirectly that rape was OK.
He also didnt have the time to leave a golf match to address his misplacing the National Nuclear Security Code and to give Janet Reno advice before they murdered 80 in Waco.

You may blow your smoke up your own a## along with the rest of the dumb lockstepping liberals but people with a brain cant be sold that bill of goods.

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Mike from Greenville writes:
4/18/2004 12:59:21 PM
To all those who preach balanced budgets but don't practice them:

Review all the budget proposals put forth by Reagan and DaddyW and you will not see one where the budget was balanced. In fact, W busted the surplus Clinton budgets after his first full year in office with tax cuts and massive spending.

Then, review the Clinton budget proposals and you will find that in 1992, he proposed a budget that did not increase the deficit and from that point on, the deficit was lowered and the budget balanced in the years after.

Not one GOP prez has done that from Reagan thru W. In fact, the latest Prez has spent more than Clinton and has a record breaking deficit all with a GOP congress.

Clinton was a leader who proposed balanced budgets and got them done.

Clinton used tax policy wisely in getting it done. W has used tax policy to bust the balanced budgets of the Clinton era.

And Clinton did all this while getting blowjobs which is impressive.

Maybe a cold beer would do the same for W.

Overall, Reagan, DaddyW, and W preach balanced budgets but never once came up with one.


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Robert from Morgantown, WV writes:
4/18/2004 12:04:44 PM
I distinctly remember the budget being balanced after 1994. That was the year that the House and Senate became a Republican majority. The only part of the gevernment the Democrats controled was the Executive branch. That doesn't necessarily make Dems in control.

I love revisionist history....

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W. Andrew from Greenville writes:
4/18/2004 10:12:41 AM
Joe...you are so full of shit.

You know as well as I do that the budget was balanced when Washington was controlled by the Democrats. I certainly think divided government creates balance...in more than one sense of the word. However, since the Republicans have been in charge, the deficit is the largest in history. Proud moment for Republicans...even those ashamed enough to hide behind an anarchist ideology...but in the end you are all haters of democracy (always smart enough to speak only of "government.")

The ideologues of markets and supply side predicted catastrophe after Clinton's tax increase. What happens when truth got in the way of ideology and proved you all to be WRONG? Lies.

I am not used to you engaging in such obvious dishonesty, but those hardened by ideology must resort to it at some point, because eventually ideology must give way to reality. To preserve ideological myths all ideologues engage in twisting the truth...although the purpose is to deceive yourself as much as others.

Speaking of dishonesty, I think Clinton was dishonest in his pledge to cut taxes and then to raise taxes (like Bush has been dishonest not discontinue to build nations and then destroy a nation so he can rebuild) it. But, under Clinton's leadership (and at the behest of Greenspan) the Senate and the House agreed to "pay go" and tax increase and these two principles balanced our budget, drove interest rates down, created jobs and prosperity.

"Borrow and spend" is the economics and the ethics of Republicans, and apparently they are yours as well.

But, we do agree on one thing...bring back Newt.

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Joe from Edisto Island writes:
4/17/2004 11:38:52 PM
Does Mikey mean that same Clinton that promised middle class tax cuts and instead signed into law the largest tax increase in history? With no Republican votes?

Fortunately for him, just two years into his regime, the GOP swept into office and implimented their "Contract With America" which locked spending just below the rate of inflation... resulting in the first budget surplus's in recent history. Then after the leader of that contract was ousted, the GOP fell back in Lock Step with the Dems and now we have a 500 Billion deficit.

Where's Newt when we really need him?

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Doug from Columbia writes:
4/17/2004 1:14:54 PM
You mean the same Clinton who wants the UN to take over--and who is waiting for a big position with said organization?

No, he wasn't a libertarian, if that's what you're getting at. He's a socialist, through and through. How you could even compare the two is beyond me.

Sadly, you really do not know what it means to be a libertarian. Go here for a primer: www.LP.org

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Doug from Columbia writes:
4/17/2004 1:14:54 PM
You mean the same Clinton who wants the UN to take over--and who is waiting for a big position with said organization?

No, he wasn't a libertarian, if that's what you're getting at. He's a socialist, through and through. How you could even compare the two is beyond me.

Sadly, you really do not know what it means to be a libertarian. Go here for a primer: www.LP.org

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Mike from Greenville writes:
4/17/2004 12:38:31 AM
Doug,

Have you heard of this guy Clinton who was prez and was socially liberal and fiscally conservative - and he wasn't part of that tiny group called libertarians? He was a Dem.

Guess W who is fiscally liberal and socially whacked (can't even drink a cold beer or find WMDs)distracted you.

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Doug from Columbia writes:
4/16/2004 5:36:05 PM
Libertarians take the best from both worlds: socially liberal (social freedom), from the Left, and fiscally conservative (limited government), from the Right.

We don't believe that, in every election, you should be forced to choose between the two. We feel that every citizen should be able to enjoy both.

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Bob from Fayetteville writes:
4/15/2004 4:05:12 PM
DEar Doug,
My message was quite the opposite of what you stated. I called the Demos socialist, communist, etc...

It is a pity they/we use the term liberal to describe them. The libertatrians are the real liberals or better yet freedom fighters.

Comprende?

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Haywood from Greenville writes:
4/15/2004 11:39:17 AM
Most South Carolina Libertarians aren't liberal. In fact most of them seem to be people who think the far right of the Republican party is too liberal (and also show few signs of actually knowing what a libertarian is), but Libertarians throughout the country tend to lend much more to the left than the right.
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Doug from Columbia writes:
4/15/2004 11:18:57 AM
Bob,

In what alternate reality did you get the idea that Libertarians were liberals? Please, tell me that I read your comments incorrectly.

Libertarians have never, and will never, embrace socialism, totalitarianism or communism!

For more information on what Libertarians stand for, go to www.LP.org

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James from Bennettsville writes:
4/15/2004 9:23:55 AM
Maybe we should just turn it over to the UN!
We would be simple minded and just plain stupid to buy the liberal crap.
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Mike from Greenville writes:
4/15/2004 8:41:31 AM
Jimmy forgets that Reagan holds the record for the biggest tax increase in our country's history.

When you take inflation into account, Reagan signed the biggest tax increase in 1982 which was higher than Clinton's in 1993.

So, both these tax increases (using Jimmmy's logic) triggered the Clinton economic boom.

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Bob from Fayetteville writes:
4/15/2004 12:47:11 AM
Jimmy,
The liberal Democrats are not really liberal. Look at all the finger pointing and socialist programs they propose and adopt. Hillarys socialized healthcare is a prime example. Although it did not pass the HIPAA did thus making private industry so regulated and crimped that they have been shifteds the burden once held by the state. But the burden has not been shifted justly and millions of American employers are on the verge of cutting health benefits for their employees as it is costing too much. Also, the healthy employess drop off the insurance rosters many time because why should they carry the burden of the sichk when if left alone the insurance companies could be selective.

The number of health care insurance companies is dwindling daily and the monopolies are rising, it will be socialized indirectly thru the governments tampering with competition under the not really liberal at all Clinton regime-the pseudo-liberals.

Pseudo-liberals give the real liberals, the Libertarians a bad name.

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Haywood from Greenville writes:
4/14/2004 11:36:46 PM
Conservatives are generally very simple minded people so they have no choice but to regurgitate the same idiotic commentary over and over again.
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James from Bennettsville writes:
4/14/2004 6:18:55 PM
I can not speak for Republicans but as a Conservative I feel I have to often times repeat myself because Liberals do the same stupid crap over and over.
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Joe from Irving, TX writes:
4/14/2004 6:02:06 PM
Liberal this, liberal that. Clinton did this, Clinton did that. God, this rhetoric is SO tiresome!
Every time I come across some comentary by a Rebublican conservative, I feel like I'm reading the same old crap as all the other articles I've ever read by the same group of people.

My question is, why are Republicans so insecure that the have to continuously spout this stuff? Are they just trying to constantly convince themselves that their long held beliefs are true, which of course would negate the requirement to perform any new thinking or change their ideas?

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