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Peter from Clemson writes:
1/12/2006 3:20:50 PM
Due Process is what one would expect. Red Light cams make it much more difficult for due process to be carried out.
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Andrew from Clemson, SC writes:
1/12/2006 9:36:11 AM
True. However, when they E.D. your house they usually tear it down to build the intersection.
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Vic from Simpsonville writes:
1/12/2006 8:52:19 AM
Peter from Clemson writes:

"Vic,
How does the camera get you to sign the citation?"

What has that to do with anything?

" . . . I wonder how many of these cameras have picked up stolen vehicle pursuits? Sent the criminal charge to the owner who now has to appear in court to answer for a crime he did not commit, and was not ticketed for by officers."

LOL. Are you serious?
"Whoa, your honor dude, I meant to report my Pacer stolen, but I was, like, you know, hanging in the dorm with my posse, playing Halo and smoking some- I mean, munching some tots and soda and, well, like, before we knew it, it was 2:00 AM, and, like . . . Dude! This is so not fair that I get a ticket!"

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Haywood from Greenville writes:
1/11/2006 4:13:44 PM
I was serious Andrew. Houses in the middle of intersections are not a good idea. It's too noisy and the government can spy on you.
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Peter from Clemson writes:
1/11/2006 3:11:04 PM
Vic,

How does the camera get you to sign the citation?

It does not. The citation is mailed to the registered owner no matter who was behind the wheel. There is no officer statement and most of these cameras would hardly get a pic of the driver merely the tag. I wonder how many of these cameras have picked up stolen vehicle pursuits? Sent the criminal charge to the owner who now has to appear in court to answer for a crime he did not commit, and was not ticketed for by officers.

Interesting tech with interesting usages. It should be apparent though that this does give authorities a toe hold in tracking individuals and monitoring that could fit quite well with other unwarrented searches.

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Vic from Simpsonville writes:
1/11/2006 2:58:44 PM
I detest all the mechanisms of Big Brother, but a red light camera is hardly on the same level as un-warranted, unlawful communications snooping.
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Andrew from Clemson, SC writes:
1/11/2006 2:50:43 PM
Haywood,

Serious, or trying to be funny?

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Joe from Edisto Island writes:
1/11/2006 9:35:45 AM
Andrew, thanks for the tip regarding the camcorder. I've been looking around for one and just hadn't made up my mind. But I googled (Froogled?) the JVC GZ-MG50 and I think that just may be the hot ticket.

Thanks again!

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James from Bennettsville writes:
1/10/2006 5:40:34 PM
I realize that but we have to protect our liberal friends who buy homes in the middle of an intersection.
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Doug from Columbia writes:
1/10/2006 5:30:05 PM
Who said anything about buying a house?
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Haywood from Greenville writes:
1/10/2006 3:42:45 PM
"Do you doubt that at the drop of a hat like another terrorist attack for example they would not be used to spy on Americans?"

Good point. Make sure you don't buy a house located in the middle of an intersection.

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Andrew from Clemson, SC writes:
1/10/2006 2:34:53 PM
I do have a problem with red light cameras regardless of how they are misused.

Let's say you could control the corruption and manipulation. Do you doubt that at the drop of a hat like another terrorist attack for example they would not be used to spy on Americans?

Even if that makes me a nut unreasonable extremist, that doesn't have anything to do with police misconduct or the concept that We The People hold the government accountable and not the other way around.

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Vic from Simpsonville writes:
1/10/2006 1:53:40 PM
I have no problem with red light cameras, provided the process can be kept free of corruption and manipulation, which has proven to be a problem everywhere they have been installed.
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Andrew from Clemson, SC writes:
1/10/2006 10:06:42 AM
"I would wager you are against cameras at traffic lights though."

James, it's not about cameras. Cameras are just a technology. Technologies can always be used for good or evil.

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Andrew from Clemson, SC writes:
1/10/2006 10:03:57 AM
They have seen the enemy, and it is us.

How could The War on Terror not devolve into protecting the government from all who question it? Even if the people who started off this nonsense had the best of intentions, the expansion of power would be too great a temptation for the megalomaniacs.

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Vic from Simpsonville writes:
1/10/2006 9:12:23 AM
Joe from Edisto Island writes:

"I guess the gummit’s next major fear will be my carrying a concealed video camera under my coat."

Don't laugh too loudly. That camera crew in New Orleans got roughed up, too.

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Joe from Edisto Island writes:
1/10/2006 9:08:33 AM
"Law enforcement officials are not some elite class of people who are above scrutiny." - excerpt


There's a pending bill in congress that would allow LEOs (law enforcement officers) to carry a concealed weapon with them where ever they go while either on or OFF duty. Anywhere! The federal bill would permit not only inter-jurisdictional travel with a weapon, but also interstate travel with that concealed weapon.

Now I'm in total agreement that we should permit folks access to their firearms regardless of the jurisdiction, or state, especially if the off duty cop happens to be standing at the scene and witnesses a crime that requires the needs to defend him/herself or others. My gripe is that this federal law would create as Doug said, "some elite class of people" that are allowed access to firearms while those of us non-LEOs are deigned our basic rights of self-defense.

My South Carolina Drivers License is honored in all fifty states and in most foreign countries. I can rent a car anywhere in the nation and legally drive where ever I choose. So while I note that the Bill of Rights makes no mention of my right to drive a motor vehicle, it DOES note the acknowledgement of my inalienable right to bare arms.

So why is my South Carolina Concealed Weapons Permit valid only in the handful of states that SLED says have reciprocity with SC while LEOs are to get a ‘free pass’?

I guess the gummit’s next major fear will be my carrying a concealed video camera under my coat.


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Just remember: 1) The FAA prevented an estimated total of FOUR licensed concealed weapons permit holders from bringing their defensive weapon with them when they boarded those aircraft on September 11th. 2) The State of NY prevented any of the average law abiding passenger on that Long Island Commuter train to even HAVE a permit to carry a firearm on that fateful December day in 1993. 3) Federal Law prevented any firearms from being within 1000 feet of that Columbine High School in 1999.

Yup, only the Plantation Massah LEOs are to be allowed to defend themselves. The plantation slaves will just have to figure out how to fend for themselves.

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James from Bennettsville writes:
1/10/2006 8:02:40 AM
I would wager you are against cameras at traffic lights though.
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Lilly from Hanahan writes:
1/7/2006 5:10:55 PM
Dear Mr. Kendal,

I appreciated your article: If you don’t have anything to hide..., and I am in complete agreement with your statement, “Law enforcement officials are not some elite class of people who are above scrutiny.”

I would like to extend what you said beyond uniformed police officers and add that members of the judiciary are not some elite class of people who are above scrutiny either.

I am providing the following statement from http://victimsoflaw.net/9thcircuit2.htm
American Justice Denied
Responds to the Ninth Circuit Pro Se Task Force Report

In his essay Judicial Immunity vs. Due Process: When Should a Judge Be Subject to Suit?"
Robert Craig Waters states:
"In the American judicial system, few more serious threats to individual liberty can be imagined than a corrupt judge... Clothed with the power of the state and authorized to pass judgment on the most basic aspects of everyday life, a judge can deprive citizens of liberty and property in complete disregard of the Constitution. The injuries inflicted may be severe and enduring. Yet, the recent expansion of the judge-made exception to the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1871, chief vehicle for redress of civil rights violations, has rendered state judges immune from suit even for the most bizarre, corrupt, or abusive of judicial acts." (Emphasis added)
When federal courts are called upon to provide protection against state court corruption, all of the Circuits must stop and listen and give justice where it is due. In so doing, judges at lower levels would soon understand that their mission is no longer "greed and corruption" as usual, but rather justice - and meaningful justice - for ALL because corruption is going to be in plain view of public scrutiny. As for the politics of unpopularity, rest assured that the public will be just as quick to defend a fair and honest judge as it would be to remove a dishonest one.


I have personally witnessed and documented state and federal felonies committed against a disabled person spanning an 18 year period by a corrupt judiciary in the family court system.

Each and every offense which could be attributed to a uniformed officer, with the exception of two incidences, was a direct result of an unlawful order issued by a corrupt judiciary.

While the victim could have conceivably had rights of redress against the law enforcement officers, the judiciary has been unlawfully sheltered from all criminal charges by the refusal of law enforcement to accept a criminal complaint.

I would greatly appreciate seeing more public focus on corruption in the judiciary. When we start removing these criminals from the bench we will also be removing the protectorate for the uniformed officers who violate our laws.

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Ed from Charleston writes:
1/6/2006 2:09:00 PM
Doug hit the nail on the head. I have every intention of reaching out to the communities in Charleston and North Charleston, SC and encouraging the victims of police misconduct (It happens every hour in these communities) to start video taping (secretly) the police as they arrest their neighbors and friends. South Carolina has a police misconduct crisis. The lawmakers have been given a "Police Officer Conduct Accountability Act", which was wrote by a member of the Charleston County Libertarian Party. No SC State Legislator has the integrity to sponsor it. Video tape is the only method the residents of SC have to put an end to the overzealous police and the SC Cowboy Cop. Good job Doug! Keep fighting the fight brother.
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Vic from Simpsonville writes:
1/6/2006 2:00:42 PM
Although the resolution leaves something to be desired, I think my next cell phone will have some video capability, just in case . . . .
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Vic from Simpsonville writes:
1/6/2006 1:55:06 PM
Hey, remember the New Orleans video; the cops may turn on the "rat" with the camera!
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Andrew from Clemson, SC writes:
1/6/2006 1:12:45 PM
JVC has sweet 20, 30, 40 and 60 Gigabyte Hard drive camcorders. I recommend the 30 GB. As far as I could tell the only advantage to the more expensive models are that they take 2.0 pixel stills. Point?

The 25x optical zoom on these is absolutely incredible. Perfect for catching those billy club blows or any sleight of hand up close and personal. You could probably read the search warrant from 100 feet.

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Andrew from Clemson, SC writes:
1/6/2006 12:51:58 PM
Okay, good. That is my compass. Just making sure you weren't broken.
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Haywood from Greenville writes:
1/6/2006 12:47:08 PM
Not to worry Andrew. I still think most of what you say is pretty bizarre.
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Andrew from Clemson, SC writes:
1/6/2006 12:44:30 PM
Agreeing with me, complimenting Doug...Is that you Frank?
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Vic from Simpsonville writes:
1/6/2006 9:01:40 AM
"Law enforcement officials are not some elite class of people who are above scrutiny."

Very true. But they think they are, and that thinking is validated by knee-jerk law-n-order types who have actively given police the notion that they are somehow annointed. Due to a variety of factors, too many cops are cops for all the wrong reasons, and that includes administration and city hall types.

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Doug from Columbia writes:
1/5/2006 7:25:21 PM
Thanks, both of you.

I can't stand elitism or double standards, so I feel compelled to point them out whenever I encounter them.

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Haywood from Greenville writes:
1/5/2006 7:05:27 PM
Good article Doug.
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J. A. from Springfield, IL writes:
1/5/2006 5:53:20 PM
Thanks Doug for this column. This information bears repeating over and over until the American public can identify themselves to George Orwell's "Nineteen Eighty-four" novel.

Seldom are we on the same side as the ACLU but on this one they have a valid point. Those in authority, from the police to the judge, are not above the law and should be held accountable for their wrong doing the same as any other citizen.

The majority of the people are innocent of any crime and yet we are under the same surveillance as the criminal. The tactics they use are somewhat like giving the whole classroom an aspirin when only one child has a headache.

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Doug from Columbia writes:
1/5/2006 4:29:45 PM
What's good for the goose...
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